Curse

jdm_ap1 · Jan 25, 2009, 02:10 AM // 02:10

anyone here?

im using this build

vengeful was khanhei
vengeful weapon
Shield of absorption
Protective spirit
Spirit bond
iamunstopable
bath spirit
essence bond

bonder/smite

holy wrath
succor
vital blessing
retribution
spell breaker
vocal was sogolon
blessed signet
rebirth

im still having trouble randomly at the start with the bettles...

turbo234 · Jan 25, 2009, 02:29 AM // 02:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by jdm_ap1

bonder/smite

holy wrath
succor
vital blessing
retribution
spell breaker
vocal was sogolon
blessed signet
rebirth

you know [vocal was sogolon] is pointless on the smiter right? i believe you wanted to use it to lengthen [i am unstoppable] on the rit, but vocal is an item spell and only affects you.

and i wouldnt suggest succor either i would bring the typical life attunement to make survivability greater especially if you're having troubles staying alive.

Captain Bulldozer · Jan 25, 2009, 02:33 AM // 02:33

I've been doing this a lot lately on my Rit also. I find vengeful weapon to be more or less unnecessary so instead I bring Gaze of fury to deal with the (few) spirits of disenchantment that show up.

But the Ghost Beetles are really the only problem in the whole place for a Rit. The plus side is that there are at most 3 beetle groups in the whole place, one of which can be completely avoided. There can be either 1 or 2 on the starting level, just before the first flame guardian. One of these is typically killed by the stampede of Golems that come after triggering it by going down the ramp towards the flame guardian. The other you'll usually have to deal with yourself, though sometimes you can pull golems to it and let them fight it out. Beetles and Golems don't get along, but for a strange reason beetle groups tend to win out against golem groups unless they are outnumbered.

Basically, aggro the beetle group, then run backwars so that the Ghost Beetle casts its spirits out of range. This takes a little timing, but once you get the hang of it, it works pretty much always. The Ghost beetle will typically cast 3 spirits in the same spot, so let it cast the first 2 (pain and bloodsong) then run back away from them as its casting the disenchantment. You should be able to kill it before it gets another disenchantment off.

Also, Vocal Was Sogolon is worthless. Try replacing it with something more useful, like [Purge Signet], a healing signet or [Blood Ritual].

Hope this helps!

jdm_ap1 · Jan 25, 2009, 05:29 AM // 05:29

oh yah i misread the description

im gonna use purge signet instead of BR

would it work this way?

if i add vocal on myself?

for some odd reason my vengeful weapon doesnt stay on me? if i cast it on myself...weird...but anyways...

if i use vocal was sogolon on myself then cast iamunstopable

then i use vengeful was khanhei

would that work? or would vocal stop working once i drop the ashes?

my goal is to use vocal...cast iamunstopable....then use vengeful

Captain Bulldozer · Jan 25, 2009, 09:13 PM // 21:13

Ummm... you should probably go back and read the skill description of [Vengeful Weapon] again. Its not intended to stay on you for long periods of time.

Your plan for using [Vocal was Sogolon] then IAU the VwK should work. However, you'll likely find that you won't need to increase the time of IAU in order to be successful. Generally the knockdowns happen from [Shock] which certain golems use basically at the beginning of combat. My IUA on my rit lasts for like 17 seconds or so, and I find that to be enough virtually all the time. So why waste a spot on your bar for a skill that does very little for you?

jdm_ap1 · Jan 27, 2009, 12:32 AM // 00:32

maybe pain inverter instead?

Loveless Rage · Feb 15, 2009, 06:01 AM // 06:01

Vengeful Weapon only blocks one attack, and steals 15..63 health from that single block.

don't use Vocal was Sogolon. :/

Lord Of Blame · Mar 13, 2009, 01:01 AM // 01:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain Bulldozer

Basically, aggro the beetle group, then run backwars so that the Ghost Beetle casts its spirits out of range. This takes a little timing, but once you get the hang of it, it works pretty much always. The Ghost beetle will typically cast 3 spirits in the same spot, so let it cast the first 2 (pain and bloodsong) then run back away from them as its casting the disenchantment. You should be able to kill it before it gets another disenchantment off.

This is basically the tatic I try to use with the beetles. Works pretty well if you get the timing down.

My biggest issue on this dungeon right now is the first key not spawning. Per wiki this is a known bug but it's annoying since it has now happened to me 3 times in a row. Is anyone else having this issue, if so is it pretty rare or does it happen to you quite often? 3 times in a row seems excessive.